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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Dec 6, 2011 10:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Oct.-Dec 69'

Thanks for the ample response Lia and let me preface my comments by saying I literally forgot to add my disclaimer to the post stating that it might not be factually up to the standards of LIA and could contain a few errors as to my sources being questionable,and not quite as well written as one by LIA or Cliff,for it is obviously not my strong suit.
That being said it is a wide ranging topic in which I was not trying to cover all bases,thus really just focused on the change in direction to a more country based sound on a number of songs and the effect it had on the edgier music,and a listing of the performances I thought were good to outstanding to get some feedback on what other folks liked.Outside of adding and losing Keith in the lineup I find the transition that took place in 69' to be the biggest in the history of the band,acoustic based country music,a move away from psychedelia,a different feel on the new blues tunes,same with the new rock tunes,it was also a precursor to Jerry becoming the focal point over Pigpen,it took awhile but the seeds were planted.I know people blather on about Jerry getting a new guitar or wearing a red t-shirt as a transition,but 69' was the epitome of a transition for the GD.I did not mention the acoustic sets for I didn't feel Jerry and Bob playing a few acoustic songs constituted an acoustic set in comparison to what would happen in 70'.
I will join you saying I much prefer early 69',and as to the thematic jams I don't think I ever expressed myself clearly on them.It is not so much that I don't like them,to the contrary,when well played,stretched out and experimented on I very much enjoy them,but when they drop 3-5 minutes of riffing on Tighten Up or UJB into the middle of Dark Star I could live without it,for the most part it seemed to be forced and clumsy most of the time,as opposed to a fluid and genuine musical statement to be added and included into the flow of the music.More so my preference would be a 72' version with bombast and cacophony as opposed interweaving a catchy ditty into the mix.I also lament Stills not being a much more frequent guest as I found him amongst the best guests they ever had sit in with them,he truly integrated himself into the music,more so than any one but Cippolina.He stood toe to toe and exchanged leads,played rhythm guitar,joined in on vocals and he knew the music well enough to do those things,I can't say I think much of his other endeavors, but quite liked him with the GD.
Thanks to Cliff,RD and Tell for your responses.
Cliff I knew you would check in as you have always touted that Ark run,what can I say,I have great respect for your knowledge and share many of your likes as far as the music goes,but on occasion we differ as to our opinions on certain shows,just have to chalk it up to different strokes...
RD, I will give that Cumberland another go,and point well taken about the spacing as I am one of those geezers and confused myself when reading the post as it appeared on the forum,you can' really see what it is going to look like when typing into that small blue box.
Mr. Tell,however you accumulated your wisdom in matters concerning the GD is of no importance,you might undersell your knowledge,but I always find your comments insightful and interesting,thanks for taking the time to respond for I know you don't often check in on GD threads.

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Poster: thekind78 Date: Dec 8, 2011 12:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Oct.-Dec 69'

While the "Tighten Up" portion of 11-02's DS interlude is perhaps a bit forced the transition in,and the playing of, the "Feelin' Groovy" jam is quite organic and absolutely exhilarating...not that anyone asked, but I couldn't resist dropping my $.02. A truly wonderful show from start to finish.

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Dec 8, 2011 1:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Oct.-Dec 69'

I agree and pointed it out in my initial post that I thought that jam was particularly well played,as far as your two-cents,that is what this place for and appreciate you taking the time to contribute to the thread.

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Poster: boat man Date: Dec 8, 2011 8:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Oct.-Dec 69'

I don't read the posts everyday, and you probably think I'm a nub, anyway, but I, too, commend you on a well chosen and thought provoking thread.
It had me scrambeling through my shows and taking some notes.
The time you spent was well used and I like your method of review. I generally do appreciate your commentary.
Thanks for that.

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Dec 8, 2011 11:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Oct.-Dec 69'

No sir,I hold no grudges and appreciate the kind words,and feel free to call me on any occasion when you feel I am acting the fool,which should give you ample opportunity.